Convincing Christianity
    Ministry Update www.comereason.org March/April 2004

 

  

This is a newsletter feature of Come Reason Ministries and the "Come Let Us Reason Together..." web site. For more apologetics articles, log on to http://www.comereason.org/ 
 

Site Features

  • Are Miracles Logically Impossible?
  • How Could Jesus be Punished as a Sinner When He's Pure?

Ministry Report

  • New Dare to Defend Conference Scheduled!
  • Conference CDs Available
  • Come Reason Audio Section Now Online

Feature Article 

  • The Argument Against Homosexual Marriage - Part 2

 

 

         New Site Features

Are Miracles Logically Impossible?

David Hume was one of the most famous philosophers to come out of the enlightenment. A hard skeptic, his argument against believing in miracles is offered even today as proof that one cannot believe such claims. Is this true?  Read on to find out at 
http://www.comereason.org/phil_qstn/phi060.asp

 


How Could Jesus be Punished as a Sinner 
When He's Pure?

If Jesus was completely without sin, isn't it unfair of God to punish Him as a sinner? How does the atonement work? Here Lenny explores how great a salvation we have in Christ.
http://www.comereason.org/theo_issues/theo030.asp

 

         Ministry News

New Dare to Defend Conference Scheduled!

Join us June 26 as we gather some of the top minds in Christendom together to answer your questions and teach you how to better defend your faith! This free, one-day only conference will include scholars such as Dr. JP Moreland and Dr. Frank Beckwith and will cover subjects like

  • Answering the challenges to Christianity
  •  How the Resurrection is an undeniable fact of history
  •  How to read the Bible in a more focused, powerful way
  •  Why faith and reason are not contradictory

Plus we will have a question and answer session with all the participants.

This event will be held at Harvest Christian Fellowship in Riverside, CA. and is free to all.  For more information, speakers and session topics, log onto http://daretodefend.org/

Dare to Defend Conference CDs Available

Our last Dare to Defend Apologetics Conference featured some of the best-regarded apologetics experts in America. Topics included:

  • Defending Your Faith Against Opposing Beliefs
  • Defending Your Faith Against Evolution
  •  Defending Your Faith Against Moral Relativism
  • Defending Your Faith Against The Skeptic
  • Two Question and Answer Sessions

Now, you can own these lectures on Audio CD. Just visit the Come Reason Store-section and select the topic that interests you, or you can grab the entire series. 

Log onto http://www.comereason.org/resources/res030.asp for more details.

Come Reason Audio Section Now Online

Recently, Lenny was featured on Los Angeles radio answering several meaty apologetics questions that Christians regularly face. Now, with our new Audio Resources section, you can hear the answers right from your computer.

Just go to http://www.comereason.org/resources/res050.asp to listen to answers on issues such as an infinitely old universe, evolution, moral relativism in schools, and more. All clips are available in both Windows Media or Real Media format.

 

 

          Feature Article


The Argument Against Homosexual Marriage - Part 2

In this short series, we're looking at answering the challenges brought forth by the homosexual community and others in their quest to offer homosexual marriage as a legitimate alternative to the traditional joining of a man and a woman. Our last article examined two specific arguments showing why the concept of homosexual marriage makes no sense. We answered the charge that marriage is merely a legal convention and demonstrated how all cultures need to promote and cultivate the joining of the two sexes in a monogamous union in order to survive and flourish. We then turned and examined the very meaning of the word marriage and how it is understood universally to mean only the union of a man and a woman, not two people of the same sex. (If you missed this article, you may read it online at http://www.comereason.org/newsletters/feb04.htm)

In this installment, I'd like to look at two more arguments showing why homosexual marriage is a dangerous precedent for any society to set. We'll demonstrate how homosexuals by their actions and stated desires want to nullify the concept of marriage as a lifetime monogamous commitment. Next, we'll look at whether the government guarantees people the right to marry whomever they want.

3. The Behavioral Argument Against Homosexual Marriage

The cultural and linguistic arguments against homosexual marriage are incredibly strong, but there are those who still persist in advancing the concept of same sex marriage. They share the opinion of Chip Arndt and Reichen Lehmkuhl, the self-proclaimed "married" homosexual couple who won CBS' game show The Amazing Race. Arndt noted the Oxford dictionary definition of marriage encompasses only a man and a woman. He then commented, "What's happening today, which has always happened through any revolution of culture, is that people redefine words. And we're basically saying-
Reichen: It's time to redefine.
Chip: It's time to redefine it."1

Now we've already demonstrated that heterosexual marriage is necessary to survival of a culture and how the concept of marriage as we now understand it is incompatible with same sex unions. What many don't realize is many in the homosexual community who do want to redefine marriage intend to change the concept well beyond the boundaries of which sexes are involved.

Even today, looking at homosexual couples who identify themselves as monogamous or committed, one finds a modification of those concepts. In the Australian and New Zealand Journal of Sociology, scientists studying homosexual relationships noted "Gay monogamous relationships are rarely faithful. 'Monogamous' seems to imply some primary emotional commitment, while causal sex continues on the side."2

Another study of homosexual partnerships was conducted by German "Sexologist" and homosexual Dr. Martin Dannecker. In 1991, Dannecker studied 900 homosexuals in 1991 living in what they defined as "steady relationships". However, Dannecker found that 83% of those males had numerous sexual encounters outside their partnerships over a one-year period. Dannecker then concluded that the "clear differences in the manner of sexual gratification" between single and non-single gay men were the reverse of what he expected. Of the homosexual men in steady relationships, he wrote, " the average number of homosexual contacts per person was 115 in the past year." In Contrast, single gay men had only 45 sexual contacts.3

Such a radical departure from the concept of two people entering into a lifetime commitment is both shocking and dangerous. Promiscuity is understood as a high-risk behavior carrying dire consequences, not the least of which are health related. In fact, an upscale homosexual men's magazine, Genre, surveyed 1037 readers in October of 1996. Here are some of the results: "One of the single largest groups in the gay community still experiencing an increase of HIV are supposedly monogamous couples." 52% have had sex in a public park. 45% have participated in three-way sex. 42% have had sex with more than 100 different partners and 16% claim between 40 to 100 partners.4

Of course there are those who want to do away with the concept of marriage being a union between two individuals altogether. In a recent Los Angeles Times article the head of the International Gay & Lesbian Human Rights Commission, Paula Ettelbrick, was interviewed and asked about her views on the same-sex marriage controversy. Ettelbrick, who is also a law professor, "recommends legalizing a wide variety of marriage alternatives, including polyamory, or group wedlock. An example could include a lesbian couple living with a sperm-donor father, or a network of men and women who share sexual relations."5 The article goes on to discuss how one of her goals, in Ettelbrick's words, is to "push the parameters of sex, sexuality and family, and in the process transform the very fabric of society."6 Such changes to the concept of marriage do nothing to alleviate the high-risk behavior in which homosexuals engage and, according to Dannecker's study, may actually enflame such behaviors.

4. The Political Argument Against Homosexual Marriage

Ultimately, it becomes important to understand why marriage is encouraged within the laws of the United States. As stated last month, the marriage relationship is seen as so necessary that "every human societ[y] has had to promote it actively".7  This means that the welfare of the society depends on the active encouragement of monogamous heterosexual unions. When understood this way, one can make a case that the U.S. constitution requires the definition of marriage to remain as it now stands.

First, we must understand that homosexuals are not being denied equal rights to marry whomever they want. The restrictions regarding marriage are enforced equally to both the heterosexual and homosexual population. For example, neither homosexuals nor heterosexuals can marry a sibling. In the same way, no one can marry someone of the same sex - that proscription applies to all citizens equally and is therefore not discriminatory.

So, why does the government restrict marriage at all? The opening paragraph of the U.S. constitution is known as the Preamble, and it sets forth the overarching principles of what the document is designed to accomplish. It reads "We, the People of the United States of America, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice and ensure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity do ordain and establish this constitution of the United States of America."8

Note that the writers explicitly state its purpose is to promote the general welfare for the people of the United States and their posterity. But we've demonstrated that homosexual marriage is in conflict with this. It wouldn't promote the general welfare of the society - it would hinder that process! Therefore, it does not make sense to say homosexual marriage is a constitutional freedom. How can we usurp this foundational intent of the framers that's explicitly stated in the constitution itself with something that is nowhere mentioned as a right?

Philosopher Francis Beckwith, in his article "Wedding Bell Blues; Understanding the Same-Sex Marriage Debate" sums it up thusly, "Since marriage is an intrinsic good, just as justice is an intrinsic good, a culture that does not nourish, encourage, and protect traditional marriage will do so at its own peril, just as it would imperil itself if it no longer understood justice as an intrinsic good. … Republican (small "r") government results from good citizens civilized by the institutions of family, honest work, and good religion. If, to quote Aristotle, statecraft is soulcraft, then the end of the state should be to produce good citizens and therefore provide a privileged and protected position for these institutions. The state, consequently, should treat traditional marriage as privileged and protected in contrast to other alternatives."9

Beckwith states that the purpose of government really defines its role regarding marriage. If the state is interested in making good citizens and promoting the good, then marriage must be protected as a heterosexual union. He continues "On the other hand, a state that treats all alternative lifestyles as equal does not believe that statecraft is soulcraft and is therefore not particularly interested in producing good citizens qualified to engage in republican government. Such a state denies there is any such thing as the good, the true, or the beautiful."10  The founding fathers have demonstrated that the government of the United States was formed for a higher purpose, that qualities such as establishing justice, promoting the welfare of the people and ensuring that their posterity also enjoyed those assurances. Since homosexual marriage endangers society in real ways and is antithetical to those ends it cannot be considered constitutionally protected. It does, in fact, undermine the intent of the constitution itself.

In the two points above, we've looked at two strong reasons why speaking about homosexual marriage makes no sense. Let me know if you agree or disagree with these points.  Write us at newsletter@comereason.org.

Next time we'll wrap up this series by looking at one more point - the question of where it can be claimed legitimately that homosexual marriage is wrong on moral grounds.  I hope you join us then.

 

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References:

1. -Steele, Bruce C. "Married and millionaires-amazing!" Advocate.com August 22, 2003
http://www.advocate.com/html/stories/897/897_amazing.asp

2.- Connell, RW. Crawford, J., Dowsett, GW., Kippax, S., Sinnott, V., Rodden, P., Berg, R., Baxter, D., Waston, L., "Danger and context: unsafe anal sexual practice among homosexual and bisexual men in the AIDS crisis" Australian and New Zealand Journal of Sociology (1990 ) 26: pp.187-208.

3. - Wittmeier, Carmen, "Now They Know The Other Half" Alberta Report, June 7, 1999, p.27. as quoted in "Promiscuity Facts" Citizens for Parents Rights March 28, 2002 http://www.cprmd.org/Myths/Myth_Fact_002.htm

4. - "Sex Survey Results," Genre (October 1996), quoted in "Survey Finds 40 percent of Gay Men Have Had More Than 40 Sex Partners," Lambda Report, January 1998, p. 20.

5. - Rivenburg, Roy "Divided over Gay Marriage" Los Angeles Times March 12, 2004 page E1
http://www.latimes.com/features/lifestyle/la-et-rivenburg12mar12,1,7976228.story?coll=la-home-style

6. - Ibid.

7. -  Young, Katherine K. and Paul Nathanson "Marriage a la mode: Answering the Advocates of Gay Marriage"
http://www.marriageinstitute.ca/images/mmmode.pdf Sept. 29, 2003

8. - The United States Constitution

9. - Beckwith, Francis J. "Wedding Bell Blues: Understanding the Same-Sex Marriage Debate"
Christian Research Journal Fall 1997
Accessed online at http://www.equip.org/free/DH261.htm

10. - Ibid.