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    Ministry Update www.comereason.org July 2005

 

  

This is a newsletter feature of Come Reason Ministries and the "Come Let Us Reason Together..." web site. For more apologetics articles, log on to http://www.comereason.org/ 
 

Site Features

  • Does the Big Bang Contradict Creation?
  • Answering the Skeptic: Is the Bible a Myth?

Ministry Report

  • Come Reason Relaunches Web Site
  • Dare to Defend Events in Colorado, California
  • July's Apologetics Study - Answering The Da Vinci Code

Feature Article 

  • Who Chose What to Include in the Bible? - Part 1

 

         New Site Features

Does the Big Bang Contradict Creation?

Whenever the question of origins is discussed, we hear about the Big Bang. Scientists say there exists good evidence for such an event, but many who believe in the Biblical creation account deny it. What is the Big Bang? Is there evidence for it and does that conflict with Scripture? Read Lenny's answer at
http://www.comereason.org/sci_bible/sci040.asp

 


Answering the Skeptic: Is the Bible a Myth?

What do you do when a skeptic approaches you and asserts, "Isn't the Bible a book of parables, harmful for believing today?" Let's take a hard look at this objection and see who's being more reasonable - the believer or the skeptic? 
http://www.comereason.org/exst_god/exs060.asp

 

 

         Ministry News

Come Reason Relaunches Web Site

After many months in preparation, we're pleased to announce that www.comereason.org has been expanded and redesigned. In addition to the hundreds of articles we still offer, the site has added a resources area where you can download printable white papers, purchase Come Reason CDs and DVDs, browse through popular apologetics book titles and more. We've also added an Events calendar so you can check on upcoming studies or conferences. All of this has been wrapped in a new, easier to navigate interface. Log on and check it out.

Dare to Defend Events Slated in Colorado, California

Join us in the month of August at Calvary Chapel San Jacinto as we have some of the foremost speakers in Christian Apologetics training you on how to defend your faith against the tough questions! Each Wednesday evening, from August 10 through 31, we will present a different topic on how to defend your faith. The sessions begins at 7:00 PM. For more details log onto http://www.daretodefend.org/ or you may call Calvary Chapel San Jacinto at (951) 654-1401.

For those of you in the Denver/Fort Collins area, Come Reason will be holding an event on Thursday, September 17 at the University of Northern Colorado. We'll host a free lecture open to the public entitled "Why Christianity is Inherently Reasonable" and featuring guest speaker Dr. Paul Copan. Lenny Esposito will be addressing the Christian clubs on campus Thursday and Friday. Call Come Reason at 866-95-REASON for more details.

July's Apologetics Study - Answering The Da Vinci Code

Join us Monday, July 25 at 7:00 PM as Lenny continues his monthly apologetics study. This month we'll be discussing the popular novel The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown.

The study meets the fourth Monday of each month at Harvest Christian Fellowship, 6115 Arlington Ave. in Riverside, CA. Childcare will be provided. For more details, call the church office at (951) 687-6902.

 

 

          Feature Article


Who Chose What to Include in the Bible? - Part 1

Recently, some friends and I were discussing the Protestant claim of relying on the Bible alone as the source of authority for our faith and how that differs from the Roman Catholic view. For those unfamiliar with the issue, the Roman Catholic position holds that Scripture and sacred tradition are dual sources of authority. It is this sacred tradition that gives the Pope his status and influences their beliefs on many issues.(1)

One friend brought up a claim made by a Catholic on an Internet discussion board. He said that Protestants depend on tradition as well, at least in some sense, since they depend on the traditional selection of books that make up the Bible. Someone had to choose which books would be included, so doesn't this mean we're holding to tradition on at least one point? The answer is no and it is an important reasons why - especially since others will try to say our choices for which books were included in the Bible was somehow arbitrary. I've reproduced the letter below and provided my answer to help clarify our understanding of the origin of our Bible.

The Question of Scripture Alone

< --- Original Message --- >
There is no such thing as a sola scripturist. For it is impossible to demonstrate that Scripture is Scripture by only using Scripture!

How do we know that the Table of Contents at the beginning of our Bibles is "accurate" (that is, that all the books contained within are divinely inspired)?

We have to rely upon the people who put the list together -- which means we have to rely upon church tradition being divinely inspired in the development of the canon.

The question for the Protestant CANNOT be: "Should I only accept the Scripture as divinely inspired?" but rather: "To what degree should I accept church tradition (along with Scripture) as divinely inspired?"
< --- End --- >

I think we need to be careful in our assessment of how we got our Bible. So much hinges on a proper grasp of why we view certain documents as inspired, since the Bible's authority hinges directly on whether or not the scriptures do indeed have their origin in God.

The first thing one must remember when discussing the inclusion of documents as scripture: no church or council ever appointed certain works as inspired and others as not inspired. This is so important, I want to repeat it. No church or council ever appointed certain works as inspired and others as not inspired. All the early church, beginning with the apostles, maintained that one does not declare a writing to be the word of God, but one recognizes that the word of God has been given and treats it appropriately. It's similar to the laws of nature. For example, one does not decide that gravity is a law of nature. It's not as though someone declared that the earth should exert a forced pulling us downward and that somehow made gravity come true. They simply observe its effects and state that the law exists.

Let's look at a few points that show how we can observe the inspirational nature of Scripture:

Identifying Scriptural Authority

The claim was "There is no such thing as a sola scripturist. For it is impossible to demonstrate that Scripture is scripture by only using Scripture!"

This claim isn't true. Remember, the Bible isn't a single writing, but 66 separate documents written by different authors over 1500 years. Therefore it is not circular to argue that when the New Testament authors refer to the Old Testament as Scripture it is supportable.

The two main identifying characteristics of scripture are 1) they derive from authoritative sources (God's prophet, apostolic authority, etc.) and 2) they hold predictive prophecy (ref Deut. 18:22).

Divine Authority in the Old Testament

Both in the Old Testament and the New Testament, claims of divine inspiration are made directly. The Old Testament prophets say over and over again "Thus saith the Lord" claiming to speak God's message to the people. They supported this claim with various prophetic predictions. This is why Peter writes "But know this first of all, that no prophecy of Scripture is a matter of one's own interpretation, for no prophecy was ever made by an act of human will, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God."

Jesus also directly authenticates the Old Testament in its entirety. In Luke 24:44 Jesus says, "These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me." Thus Jesus is saying that the Old Testament is the prophetic Word of God. He also references "The blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah" encapsulating the first and last martyr of the Hebrew Scriptures.

Ultimately, we can form the argument this way:

  1. Jesus claimed to have divine authority to speak on behalf of God
  2. Jesus said that his resurrection from the dead would authenticate his authority
  3. We have good historic evidence that Jesus rose from the dead
  4. Therefore, Jesus' statements on the inspiration of Scripture have authority

The writer to Hebrews put it this way: "God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds" (Heb1:1). God's word is His Son, so His word is authoritative in authenticating other areas of Scripture.

We've gone rather quickly through the main points in discussing the initial claim of Scriptural authority. Next month, we'll look at two key elements that the early church used in identifying which documents should be included in the New Testament. However, if you'd like a more detailed study of the concept of Biblical inspiration, get a copy of our audio teaching "How We Can Know the Bible is REALLY from God"

Until next month, God bless.

 
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The Purpose of Come Reason Ministries is to glorify Christ by:

Equipping and instructing the church, providing thoughtful, intelligent answers to biblical difficulties while also answering the skeptic and demonstrating the reasonableness of Christianity by challenging philosophies contrary to the Christian worldview.

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References

1. See http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/15006b.htm for a detailed explanation of this doctrine.